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Christians: Are adultery and fornication the same?
There are various verses in the bible referring to the sins of adultery and fornication. According to my dictionary, adultery exclusively refers to extramarital intercourse, whereas fornication can mean either extramarital intercourse or simply intercourse between unmarried persons.

It will be appreciated if anyone, though, preferably one who has studied the bible in Greek or Latin, can clarify this for me.

Not a christian but, adultery is bad and fornication is wonderful.

I need to find articles related to these books, where do I look?
I have to find 5 articles that can relate to these books.
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass
The House on Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros
Any idea of a place a can find something relating to these? (Probably about adultery, slavery, rights, latin issues...)
Thanks, you're help is really appreciated. I'll give you the best answer if you can help me out most, because I'll be gone all day until night. Gracias!

There are hundreds of articles related to these books. I'd be hard pressed to think of a magazine or newspaper that hasn't covered Tiger Woods, Jesse James, Eliot Spitzer or John Edwards infidelities
articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/22/…
www.people.com/people/article/0,,…
www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/ma…

The Arizona immigration law and the uproar over that has latin issues in the forefront & Fidel Castro mad a speech the other day that was covered on NRR, CNN etc.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/01…
www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Walt…
www.voanews.com/english/news/Fide…

If you need nore, talk to your local librarian or see if your library web site has online data bases like ebscohost, or a KNOW IT NOW 24/7 icon.
This is what reference librarians do !

Here is a link to a modern slavery article by BBC
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/worl…

Thou shalt not commit adultery? What does it mean?
To me adultery is when a married person cheats on his or her spouse, or another person commits an infidelity with another married person. It is bad for a person who is in a committed relationship to cheat on their partner, but if they are not married it is cheating and not adultery- because they are not married to each other.
I have talked with some Catholic senior citizens, my mother included. Cora Beth Walton, I mean, my mother, is the self proclaimed righteous lady of the community. As a teenager, she earned the the name the Reverend Mother by both male and female friends.
My mother is one of those, "des exilles este" in the Latin, that thinks that masturbation is a form of adultery. "You are abusing your body and perverting bodily functions intended for procreation." My mother thinks that when a man flushes something down the toilet that he is killing babies. God only knows how many of my mother's grandguyren I have killed over the years.
I didn't know it was humanly possible to commit adultery with yourself.
When my ex wife and I were separated, my mother kept her religious vigil. "That's adultery!"she would say when she saw me. Now that I am officially divorced, my mother maintains her John the Baptist style zealots attitude towards me.
When a couple is dating, not married, and they get involved, is that considered adultery?
My mother does not recognize gay and lesbian marriages. She says it is a sin against God. She also calls what the G&L's do to be adultery.
Masturbation = Adultery
Premarital sex = Adultery
Gay and lesbian relations, married or not = adultery.
"Mom," I said. "Do you consider what the priests did to the guyren to be adultery?"
"That is all lies," my mother said. "Lies from the Jewish lawyers and the Jew controlled media. That's just Jews making up lies about our holy men. I never knew a single priest who would ever, ever do such a thing. That is must Jew's lies to deface the one true Christian church."
Mom: Catholic priest pedophilia = Jewish lies and Jewish propaganda by the Jewish controlled media.
Maybe my mother does not consider what the priests to do guyren is adultery because the guyren are not adults. No?

The term adultery in religious context is subjective. It means different things to different people. Generally, younger generations will have a more "modern"view on things. In Catholicism, historically any sex act that engaged in willingly unless with the person you are married to, is adultery. It is also adultery if you are divorced, remarried, and have sexual relations with your new spouse because the Catholic church does not recognize divorce.

Your mother, sadly, sounds like she thinks the rape and molestation of priests on young boys is complete lies. This, of course is an incorrect belief founded on her blind faith. She also sounds like she is antisemitic. Regardless, guy molestation would not be adultery for the boys be cause they are not consenting to do those sex acts, they are forced. It might be considered adultery by more conservative Catholics on the part of the priests.

Protestants & Orthodox: How can us justify the use of contraceptives?
The early Christians believed that contraceptives were sinful and before 1933 all Christians (Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants) shared this belief. But in 1933 the Angelicans accepted the use of contraceptives and all other Protestant denomination followed behind them with this belief. The Orthodox Christians were the last to accept the use of contraceptives which their Church Father St. John Chrysostom was against, they went against their own apostlitic tradition. The only Christians that continue to agree with the early Church Fathers is the Catholics. Why would Protestants and Orthodox conform to society rather than defend the beliefs of the early Christians? Heck even St. Jerome the guy who translated the original Christian Bibles (Latin and Greek Vulgates) even preached agianst the use of contraceptives.

What type of medicine would be likened to witchcraft or sorcery? It certainly couldn’t be the general use of medication for healing. It would have to be a destructive application, something like contraception. The writings of Hippolytus show us that contraception was practiced by some in the early Church. He writes: "Whence women, reputed believers, began to resort to drugs for producing sterility, and to gird themselves round, so to expel what was being conceived on account of their not wishing to have a guy either by a slave or by any paltry fellow, for the sake of their family and excessive wealth. Behold, into how great impiety that lawless one has proceeded, by inculcating adultery and murder at the same time!" (Refutation of All Heresies 9:7, 225 AD).

St. John Chrysostom, another of the Early Church Fathers confirmed the teaching of the early Church when he wrote: "Why do you sow where the field is eager to destroy the fruit, where there are medicines of sterility [oral contraceptives], where there is murder before birth? ... Indeed, it is something worse than murder, and I do not know what to call it; for she does not kill what is formed but prevents its formation. What then? Do you condemn the gift of God and fight with His [natural] laws?" (Homilies on Romans 24, 391 AD).

No Christian can challenge the moral and theological authority of the great St. John Chrysostum, the 4th century Patriarch of Constantinople. In a homily he preached in 391 A.D., this illustrious Father of the Church condemned both contraception and abortion:

"Why do you sow where the field is eager to destroy the fruit, where there are medicines of sterility [oral contraceptives], where there is murder before birth? You do not even let a harlot remain only a harlot, but you make her a murderess as well... Indeed, it is something worse than murder, and I do not know what to call it; for she does not kill what is formed but prevents its formation. What then? Do you condemn the gift of God and fight with his [natural] laws?... Yet such turpitude... the matter still seems indifferent to many men; even to many men having wives. In this indifference of the married men there is greater evil filth; for then poisons are prepared, not against the womb of a prostitute, but against your injured wife. Against her are these innumerable tricks".

In another homily, St. John Chrysostom went on to say:

"The procreation of guyren in marriage is the 'heritage' and 'reward' of the Lord; a blessing of God (cf. Psalm 127:3). It is the natural result of the act of sexual intercourse in marriage, which is a sacred union through which God Himself joins the two together into 'one flesh' (Genesis 1-2, Matthew 19, Mark 10, Ephesians 5, et. al.). The procreation of guyren is not in itself the sole purpose of marriage, but a marriage without the desire for guyren, and the prayer to God to bear and nurture them, is contrary to the 'sacrament of love.'"

The great 4th century Latin Father St. Ambrose of Milan (who was responsible for the conversion of St. Augustine), wrote against abortion and contraception. John Noonan records, "St. Ambrose spoke of potions used in marriage in the course of his commentary on Genesis, ...he exclaimed, The rich "lest their patrimony be divided among several, deny their own fetus in their uterus and by a parricidal potion extinguish the pledges of their womb in their genital belly, and life is taken away before it is transmitted.'" John Noonan went on to explain that: "To users of potions preventing life, [Ambrose] applied the condemnation 'parricide.' From the context where protection of inheritance is the object of these acts, it is probable that any use of the potions in marriage is what is condemned."

Another 4th century Latin Father, St. Jerome, also treated the subject of contraception. As a student of St. Gregory the Theologian and translator of the Vulgate edition of the Holy Bible, St. Jerome was well qualified to reflect the established dogma of the Early Church. Condemnin

Yes, God gave us a brain, but He gave us a brain to choose what is right, namely to embrace His Will. Contraception slams the proverbial door in God's Face. His participation (with men and women) in bringing life into our world is disrupted when people rely on hormones and barriers to prevent conception. That's why NFP keeps God's participation within the relationship.

Why did Rudy Giuliani's firm lobby for the Hugo Chavez state owned oil company in Venezuela?
Isn't this just one more example of Repugs forgetting about the evils of socialism if they can stuff some money in their pockets? It reminds me of their hypocritical view of Clinton's adultery.

www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2…

IT'S THERE OWN DAMMN COUNTRY

they should have a right on every thing that is in it

Muslim... about the crusades....?
Do you think is serious, that a person can be taken seriously about this... America was discover and the natives kill almos to extintion and the the black people of Africa was slaved and bringed there... do you see some latin trying to blow themselves for this reason???...if somebody would complaint or justify a blood fact with this would be for us a 30 years deserved comndem and a generalized lol.
Still more, we celebrate the day of the race the day America was discovered and is a day of Union for us, latins works in spain, spanish in latin america, holidays etc... and that happened 2 centuries after the crusades...

Do you think, really that you muslims can be taken seriously, when the best representants you have, BIn Laden and the president of Iran are people who mention the crusades... in Iran 300 women will be executed stoned for adultery next week...

Which degree of credibility you think you have... this are your leaders...or i should include Hezbola lider?...

Also, don't forget that before they European crusades, Muslims conducted their own crusades for far longer.

Isn't this hypocritical?
Proponents against women with guy friends say that married women that have them are likely to commit adultery. What? Let me give my argument. Adultery is no worse because women with guy friends are more mainstream now than before. Look at 1987, years before women with guy friends were even accepted, adultery and infidelity were already an issue. And in Latin America, it's also hypocritical. Some of these nations that look down on women with guy friends--especially married women with guy friends--are also hypocritical too. Panama, a Latin country that supposedly has contempt for these women--is number four on a list of countries with very high divorce rates, and all the countries in this list--except maybe Barbados--has a thing against women with guy friends.

I have a feeling you might be looking for a guy friend. I could be wrong. It must be a passionate subject for you. Thanks. Good point.

What's with the religious obsession with pre-marital sex?
It's probably one of the strictest rules christian guyren are brought up with these days....the whole "abstinence" thing in US schools, the "saving yourself for marriage" mentality that permeates the religious right.

But are there many Christians out there who can honestly say WHY they believe that sex before marriage is such a terrible thing?

Sure, you're going to say "It says so in the Bible", which is pretty much the only basis you have for the belief.
But the interesting thing is....it DOESN'T say so in the bible. At least, it doesn't prohibit pre-marital sex in and of itself.

And before you cite the obvious passages, let's examine a few things:

1. Adultery
As we all know, in modern tongue "Adultery" is marital unfaithfullness. We can all pretty much agree this is a bad thing. Cheating on one's spouse is usually considered a bad thing.
Jesus at one point states that looking at a woman with lust means you "commit adultery with her in your heart".....but this does not mean just any woman. The word "woman" is a translation of the Greek "gunaika", meaning a female who is married. A female who is not married was referred to as a virgin, or "parthenos"

2. Fornication.
This word has very unclear meaning, no matter where you go. So it's a good idea to go back to the source. The original greek word was "porneia", which had many meanings depending on context. But there are no instances where it can translate to "any sex outside marriage". In fact, in one place in the bible it seems to mean incest....in another it means idolatry....and in several places it refers to "whoredom", or prostitution (Paul uses the word to refer to the buying and selling of sex slaves in the pagan temple of Corinth)
Even the word "fornication" in its original form is specifically meant to describe prostitution - derived from the Latin "Fornix", which was an L shaped wall in Rome that hookers used to hang out behind and wait for customers.

3. In Deuteronomy 22-23, we are actually given SPECIFICS of when unmarried sex is a punishable crime.
ie, if a man takes a girl as his wife, believing her to be pure, and it turns out she's not, she is stoned to death - inferring that the crime is misrepresenting herself as a virgin, not actually having sex before marriage .....and if a man takes a virgin as his fiancee, and she is subsequently raped before the marriage, both her and her rapist are put to death.

The fact that these passages actually specify ONLY certain circumstances, instead of just saying "any person who does the dirty before they are wed has committed a sin", leads me to believe that whoever wrote this part of the bible doesn't actually have a problem with premarital sex in and of itself

Thoughts?

There is a web site committed to debunking these myths you describe:
www.notanothergeneration.com/

Texas has 97% of high schools teaching abstinence only yet they have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the US!

And, like the first answer said, it is a vehicle for promoting shame to ensure religious adherence (i.e. controlling people)
That's where the $ is!

Ruining people is more like it!

Ramadan - if they will not listen to you in their home, do you bring them in yours?
Jesus Reveals Himself

"I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:16)

Comment
This verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the "bright and morning star". In other words, Lucifer-- Satan!
In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The mourning star actually appears as the planet Venus, the brightest "star" in the sky (but the ancients did not know about planets). Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.
Although the Isaiah verse describes the fallen king of Babylon, Christians have, for centuries, ascribed Satan as taking many forms. And what more powerful form could an evil being take than to pretend himself as the saviour of the world? This would certainly explain the hate filled verses attributed to Jesus and the blind followers who inherit ignorance. Thus, a conclusion, based on Christian beliefs of Satan, and the belief in the "inerrancy" of the Bible, one must conclude that Jesus has revealed himself as Satan!

What a Revelation!
As to the sacrifice, just what did Jesus sacrifice? According to the Bible, he certainly did not sacrifice his life. Jesus went to Heaven, (the right hand side of God) supposedly a place of peace, calm and everlasting joy. But as a man on earth, Jesus received death threats, attempts at stoning, and condemnation by his enemies. Exiting the problems on earth for the joys of heaven hardly gives an example of noble sacrifice. On the contrary, it appears that Jesus escaped his problems, leaving his disciples on their own for a life in perfect heaven. Should we teach our guyren to emulate such a selfish act?

Wars Must Be

"And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." (Mark 13:7-8)

Comment
Belief in these words can justify any war and atrocity against nations. Yet Jesus here tells us that we should not feel troubled by it as long as we have belief in Him.
When Jesus prophesies about the future, he gives the message that we have no control over our lives other than to choose or not choose a belief in the Lord. With such a message, it should not surprise anyone why the Religious Right does little to strive against war.

Burn The Daughter!

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
Comment
A priest's daughter, if found to have lost her virginity without marriage, can receive the death penalty, but in the form of incineration.
How many fundamentalist priests who so easily condemn others would carry out the burning of their daughters if they found them "whoring"?
(See also Genesis 38:24)

Jesus Will Kill Guyren

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her guyren with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Comment
If anyone thinks Jesus represents only a peaceful loving soul, then think again. For an act of adultery, Jesus would kill innocent guyren for the adultery of others; hardly fair justice, love, or the concern for human beings.
Some apologists claim that "guyren" refers to the followers of a cult of Jezebel and not to guyren birthed from Jezebel. However, if this proved the case, the situation would appear even more horrific, for a cult of believers could number in the dozens, hundreds, thousands, or more. The deaths of these multitude of cult believers (which would include guyren within its membership) would only make the moralistic problem far more atrocious.
"It's interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing the dresses."
--Flo Kennedy (NON MUSLIM!)

Silence The Woman!

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

"Parakletos" or "Periklytos"?:
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: Some scholars believe that what Jesus (peace be upon him) said in his own Aramaic tongue in these verses represents more closely the Greek word "Periklytos" which means the admirable or glorified one. This word corresponds exactly to the Arabic word "Muhammad" which also means the "admired one" or "glorified one." In other words, "Periklytos" is "Muhammad" in Greek. There are several similar documented cases of similar word substitution in the Bible. It is also quite possible that both words were contained in the original text but were dropped by a copyist because of the ancient custom of writing words closely packed, with no spaces in-between them. In such a case the original reading would have been: "and He will give you another comforter(Parakletos), the admirable one(Periklytos)" (See examples of many similar cases in the Biblical text in "The Emphatic Diaglott").

Ramadan - If he was the offspring of David, Then Mary, does that make them God's too or....?
Jesus Reveals Himself

"I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:16)

Comment
This verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the "bright and morning star". In other words, Lucifer-- Satan!
In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The mourning star actually appears as the planet Venus, the brightest "star" in the sky (but the ancients did not know about planets). Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.
Although the Isaiah verse describes the fallen king of Babylon, Christians have, for centuries, ascribed Satan as taking many forms. And what more powerful form could an evil being take than to pretend himself as the saviour of the world? This would certainly explain the hate filled verses attributed to Jesus and the blind followers who inherit ignorance. Thus, a conclusion, based on Christian beliefs of Satan, and the belief in the "inerrancy" of the Bible, one must conclude that Jesus has revealed himself as Satan!

What a Revelation!
As to the sacrifice, just what did Jesus sacrifice? According to the Bible, he certainly did not sacrifice his life. Jesus went to Heaven, (the right hand side of God) supposedly a place of peace, calm and everlasting joy. But as a man on earth, Jesus received death threats, attempts at stoning, and condemnation by his enemies. Exiting the problems on earth for the joys of heaven hardly gives an example of noble sacrifice. On the contrary, it appears that Jesus escaped his problems, leaving his disciples on their own for a life in perfect heaven. Should we teach our guyren to emulate such a selfish act?

Wars Must Be

"And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." (Mark 13:7-8)

Comment
Belief in these words can justify any war and atrocity against nations. Yet Jesus here tells us that we should not feel troubled by it as long as we have belief in Him.
When Jesus prophesies about the future, he gives the message that we have no control over our lives other than to choose or not choose a belief in the Lord. With such a message, it should not surprise anyone why the Religious Right does little to strive against war.

Burn The Daughter!

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
Comment
A priest's daughter, if found to have lost her virginity without marriage, can receive the death penalty, but in the form of incineration.
How many fundamentalist priests who so easily condemn others would carry out the burning of their daughters if they found them "whoring"?
(See also Genesis 38:24)

Jesus Will Kill Guyren

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her guyren with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Comment
If anyone thinks Jesus represents only a peaceful loving soul, then think again. For an act of adultery, Jesus would kill innocent guyren for the adultery of others; hardly fair justice, love, or the concern for human beings.
Some apologists claim that "guyren" refers to the followers of a cult of Jezebel and not to guyren birthed from Jezebel. However, if this proved the case, the situation would appear even more horrific, for a cult of believers could number in the dozens, hundreds, thousands, or more. The deaths of these multitude of cult believers (which would include guyren within its membership) would only make the moralistic problem far more atrocious.
"It's interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing the dresses."
--Flo Kennedy (NON MUSLIM!)

Silence The Woman!

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)